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Date of Hearing:  June 30, 1998
Counsel:          David Hendren


               ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON PUBLIC SAFETY
                        Don Perata, Chair

           AB 2816 (Baugh) - As Amended:  June 26, 1998


  SUMMARY  :  Provides no law enforcement or correctional official  
can use a person under the age of 15 years as a police informant  
nor can such an official use a person 15- through 17-years-old as  
a police informant without judicial advisement, the consent of a  
judicial officer and the consent of the minor's parent or  
guardian, but allows 15- through 17-year-olds to be used in  
connection with the Stop Tobacco Access to Kids Enforcement Act  
(Stop Act).  Specifically,  this bill  :

 1) Provides no law enforcement or correctional official can use  
    a minor under the age of 15 years as a police informant.

 2) Provides no law enforcement or correctional official can use  
    a minor ages 15 through 17 as a police informant, except for  
    the purposes of the Stop Act, unless a judicial officer  
    explains the minor's options and the nature of the minor's  
    participation as a police informant, and both the judicial  
    officer and the minor's parent or guardian consent to the use  
    of the minor as a police informant.

 3) Provides if the minor's parent or guardian is a suspect in  
    the investigation, or when the official shows exigent  
    circumstances, a judicial officer's consent alone will be  
    sufficient.

 4) Provides there is no exception to this section when the minor  
    is participating in a transaction, as defined, for the  
    purpose of reducing or dismissing a pending criminal  
    prosecution against the minor.                           

 5) Defines "police informant" as a minor who participates, on  
    behalf of a law enforcement agency, in a prearranged  
    transaction or series of prearranged transactions with direct  
    face-to-face contact with a third party, when the minor's  
    participation in the transaction is for the purpose of  
    obtaining or attempting to obtain evidence of illegal  
    activity by the third party.

 6) Contains an urgency clause.

  EXISTING LAW  : 

 1) Defines an "in-custody informant" as a person, other than a  










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    co-defendant, percipient witness, accomplice, or  
    co-conspirator whose testimony is based on statements made by  
    the defendant while both the defendant and the informant are  
    held within a correctional institution.  (Penal Code Section  
    1127a(a).)

 2) Provides a specific jury instruction that must be read to the  
    jury when an in-custody informant testifies as a witness,  
    admonishing the jury to view such testimony with caution, and  
    provides the prosecution must contemporaneously file with the  
    court a written statement detailing all consideration  
    promised to, or received by, the in-custody informant.   
    (Penal Code Section 1127a.)

 3) Provides no law enforcement or correctional official can  
    give, offer, or promise to give any monetary payment in  
    excess of $50 in return for an in-custody informant's  
    testimony in any criminal proceedings, but makes exceptions  
    for payment of lodging, housing, relocation expenses, phone  
    calls, travel, or authorized witness fees.  (Penal Code  
    Section 4001.1(a).)

 4) Provides no law enforcement agency and no in-custody  
    informant acting as an agent for the agency may take some  
    action beyond merely listening to statements of a defendant  
    deliberately designed to elicit incriminating remarks.   
    (Penal Code Section 4001.1(b).)

  COMMENTS  :  

 1)   Author's Statement  .  According to the author, "Whether or  
not coercion is used on a minor to persuade him or her to serve  
as an informant, we should not be asking teenagers to step in  
harm's way to compensate for society's failure to interdict drug  
trafficking or to successfully prosecute drug dealers using more  
traditional law enforcement techniques.  We should not use minors  
in situations where they can be harmed or killed."

 2)  Use of Juveniles As Informants  .  Many law enforcement  
    agencies will not consider using a minor as an informant  
    because of civil liability and significant parental issues.   
    Knowledge and consent of parents or guardians are typically  
    required when minors are used.  Some complications include  
    the parents' criminal record, pending cases and ties,  
    custodial problems and maintaining contact with minors moved  
    among an extended family, and minors subject to a  
    guardianship or conservatorship.       

 3)  Types of Informants  .  There are a wide variety of informants,  
    including a person who knowingly provides information to a  
    law enforcement agency related to another person's criminal  
    activity whose motivations for doing so are other than that  
    of an uninvolved witness, victim, or private citizen  










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    primarily acting through a sense of civic responsibility, and  
    who, as a general rule but not necessarily, expects some form  
    of benefit or advantage for himself, herself, or another  
    person in return. Informants include all of the following:

    a)   Active Unpaid Informants  .  Active unpaid informants are  
       anonymous or citizen informants who frequently provide  
       information or volunteer their efforts to police agencies,  
       usually without any form of compensation.

    b)   Paid Informants  .  A paid informant is an individual who  
       receives money from law enforcement in return for  
       information regarding criminal activity.

    c)   Defendant Informants  .  A defendant informant is a person  
       who is or might be prosecuted.  The informant may provide  
       information about criminal activity in which he or she was  
       or is engaged or may simply identify others involved in  
       unrelated criminal activity.

    d)   In-Custody Informants  .  An in-custody informant is an  
       inmate in custody who provides information or testifies  
       about matters another defendant told him or her while both  
       were in custody.  The testimony of such an informant is  
       subject to strict controls in various Penal Code sections.  
          
 4)  Types of Benefits to Informants  .  Benefits to an informant  
    can include any consideration or advantage the informant was  
    offered, promised, or received in exchange for the  
    information provided whether the benefit was for the  
    informant or another at the informant's request.  

    Among other things, these benefits include financial benefits  
    such as monetary payments, including but not limited to, room  
    and board or use of an automobile; leniency shown in arrest  
    or booking; requesting appropriate bail or contesting the  
    source of the bail; leniency shown in filing or not filing  
    appropriate charges or enhancements; delay in arraignment or  
    other court dates; reduction of charges; period of custody;  
    condition of probation or sentence, including favorable input  
    by a law enforcement representative; relocation of the  
    informant or his or her family; immunity; or favorable action  
    with other governmental agencies, such as the Internal  
    Revenue Service, Immigration Naturalization Service, Child  
    Services, civil courts, or private interests such as  
    employers.  
  
 5)  Unanticipated Consequences of a Blanket No Exceptions Rule  .   
    The bill does not provide for any exceptions to this bill's  
    blanket rule precluding law enforcement's use of minors under  
    15 years of age.  Such a blanket rule may have unanticipated  
    consequences.  Every law enforcement situation cannot be  
    anticipated and this rule could restrict law enforcement in  










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    some situations.   

    There may be a situation where an crime, such as murder, is  
    committed and the only way one or more of the perpetrators  
    can be caught or prosecuted is through the use of a  
    14-year-old informant as defined in this bill.  If such a  
    situation occurs and the judge, parents, defense attorney,  
    prosecutor, and police all agree the minor can be used as an  
    informant with great safety, this bill precludes such a use  
    despite all parties' agreement.  

 6)  Example  .  For example, assume three juveniles commit a  
    drive-by shooting and kill several people.  A 16-year-old is  
    driving, a 15-year-old is the front-seat passenger and  
    shooter, and a 14-year-old is the rear-seat passenger who did  
    not have any weapon.  Assume the eyewitnesses can only  
    identify the rear-seat passenger and no one else.  The police  
    speak to the 14-year-old, who tells the police what happened.  


    There are a variety of reasons why the 14-year-old's  
    statement will not convict the shooter and, therefore, why  
    law enforcement may need to use the 14-year-old as an  
    informant, such as when the 14-year-old and the shooter are  
    housed together at the juvenile facility.

    First, the 14-year-old's statement cannot be admitted against  
    the shooter in a joint trial.  (See generally,  Bruton v.  
    United States  (1969) 391 U.S. 123;  People v. Aranda  (1965) 63  
    Cal.2d 518.)

    Second, even if there are separate trials, the 14-year-old  
    informant will not want to say anything at the shooter's  
    trial if the shooter's trial is held first as whatever the  
    14-year-old says can later be used against the 14-year-old at  
    the 14-year-old's trial.  Thus, the 14-year-old may invoke  
    his or her Fifth Amendment privilege against  
    self-incrimination.  Even if the 14-year-old's trial is held  
    first, his or her appellate rights may not have run before  
    the shooter's trial and, thus, the 14-year-old may still  
    invoke his or her Fifth Amendment privilege against  
    self-incrimination.

    Third, even if the 14-year-old's statement is somehow  
    admitted against the shooter at the shooter's separate trial,  
    the 14-year-old's statement will be insufficient by itself as  
    a matter of law to convict the shooter.  (  People v. Bevins   
    (1960) 54 Cal.2d 71, 76.)  Furthermore, the jury will be  
    instructed to view the 14-year-old's testimony with distrust.  
     (California Jury Instructions Criminal 3.18 (January,  
    1998).)  

    Consequently, the only way law enforcement will be able to  










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    convict the shooter (and the driver) is if they can obtain  
    some other proof apart from the 14-year-old's statement.  The  
    14-year-old may be housed at juvenile hall with his or her  
    former accomplices and may be willing to persuade the  
    accomplices to talk to another juvenile, wear a body wire, or  
    something else allowing law enforcement to prove the crime.   
    However, under this bill, such action is not possible and the  
    shooter and driver would likely not be convicted.  
 
    SHOULD LAW ENFORCEMENT BE ABLE TO USE A MINOR TO APPREHEND A  
    PERSON WHO VIOLATES THE STOP TOBACCO ACCESS TO KIDS  
    ENFORCEMENT ACT AND NOT APPREHEND A PERSON WHO COMMITS  
    MURDER?

 7)  Requiring Judicial Consent Protects Against Potential  
    Over-Zealousness  .  Individual law enforcement officials can  
    become over-zealous when using minor informants.  However, by  
    requiring the approval of both the judge and a parent or  
    guardian, any potential over-zealousness by law enforcement  
    is balanced by other persons protecting the interests of the  
    child.  Such protections should be sufficient for a minor of  
    any age.  

    SHOULD THE BILL BE AMENDED TO ELIMINATE THE PHRASE "NO LAW  
    ENFORCEMENT OR CORRECTIONAL OFFICIAL SHALL USE A PERSON UNDER  
    THE AGE OF 15 YEARS AS A POLICE INFORMANT"?

 8)  Does this Bill Address the Situation which Precipitated this  
    Bill  ?  This bill was introduced in response to an incident in  
    Southern California where 17-year-old Chad MacDonald was used  
    as a narcotic informant by the Brea Police Department.   
    According to newspaper reports, MacDonald was in possession  
    of approximately 11 grams of methamphetamine on January 6,  
    1998 when he was arrested and signed a written waiver, which  
    his mother also signed, agreeing to work as an informant for  
    the Brea Police Department.  MacDonald made one  
    methamphetamine buy while detectives monitored.  

    Subsequently, MacDonald was arrested a second time on the  
    evening of February 19, when he was found to be in possession  
    of two grams of methamphetamine.  MacDonald spoke with the  
    detective who had been working with MacDonald.  Brea police  
    state the detective told MacDonald that day that MacDonald  
    could no longer work as an informant because of the second  
    methamphetamine arrest.  

    On March 1, 1998, MacDonald apparently went to a Norwalk home  
    known for drug and gang activity, was tortured and strangled;  
    his girlfriend as raped and shot, but survived.  

    There were no police present and police state MacDonald was  
    acting completely on his own.  The signed consent form  
    MacDonald signed stated, "I fully understand that I am not to  










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    participate in any investigations of any criminal activities,  
    unless the investigation is being directly supervised by a  
    sworn member of the Brea Police Department." 
        
    Thus, even if this bill were in effect at the time MacDonald  
    reached his agreement with the Brea Police Department, it  
    does not appear this bill would have prevented the incident  
    where MacDonald was killed.  MacDonald and his mother had  
    both signed a consent form which stated MacDonald should not  
    do any investigating unless directly supervised by Brea  
    Police members and MacDonald did not appear to be working  
    with any member of the Brea Police Department the day he was  
    killed.

9)   Suggested Amendments  .

    a)  Limit the Bill's Applicability to Drug Crimes  .  The author  
       states that police should not be asking teenagers to step  
       in harm's way to compensate for society's failure to  
       interdict drug trafficking or to successfully prosecute  
       drug dealers using more traditional law enforcement  
       techniques.  If that is the author's concern, perhaps the  
       bill should be limited to precluding the use of minor  
       informants for purposes of enforcing drug laws, except  
       with judicial and parental approval.  This amendment  
       eliminates the unanticipated consequence of precluding an  
       apprehension of, or prosecution for, much more serious or  
       violent crimes.

       SHOULD THE BILL'S SCOPE BE LIMITED TO LAW ENFORCEMENT'S  
       USE OF MINOR INFORMANTS TO ENFORCE DRUG LAWS?  

    b)  Deleting the Blanket Rule Regarding Minors Under Age 15  .   
       As discussed above, the author may consider eliminating  
       the blanket rule of  precluding any use of persons under  
       age 15, regardless of parental or judicial consent.  

    c)  Modifying Definition of "Police Informant"  .   
       Theoretically, the victim of a crime could be considered  
       an informant under this bill's definition.  This problem  
       could be eliminated by inserting "'Police informant' shall  
       not include a victim of an offense." into the definition. 

    d)  Clarifying "On Behalf of Law Enforcement"  .  The bill  
       provides a minor cannot participate as an informant "on  
       behalf of a law enforcement agency."  Does this mean the  
       law enforcement official must have requested the meeting?   
       If so, should this bill state that?  If not, how is it  
       determined whether the minor is participating "on behalf  
       of a law enforcement agency"? 

       As may have been the case in the Chad MacDonald incident,  
       what if the minor acts on his or her own without law  










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       enforcement authorization, with the hope of obtaining some  
       evidence incriminating a third party that could lead to a  
       reduction or dismissal of charges or a reduced sentence  
       against the minor?  Are the police then precluded from  
       using such information gained from the minor even though  
       the police may not have known, or requested, such  
       activity?  

       Should the bill define "'police informant' as a minor who  
       participates, on behalf of a law enforcement agency and at  
       the request of a law enforcement official, in a  
       prearranged transaction..."?    

       SHOULD THIS BE DONE?                                        
        

    e)   Clarifying Face-to-Face Contact  .  With the advent of  
    electronic devices such as computers which permit persons to  
    see each other on video screens despite being far away in  
    distance, perhaps the bill could be further clarified by  
    including the phrase "direct  in-person  face-to-face contact"  
    in the definition of a police informant rather than simply  
    "direct face-to-face contact".                                 
       

10)   Arguments in Opposition  .  

    a)   San Diego County District Attorney's Office  .  According  
    to the San Diego County District Attorney's Office, "The bill  
    states as its primary goal, to ensure that minors are no  
    longer placed in a position of danger by being used as  
    informants.  Unfortunately, by identifying a specific group  
    of individuals who can no longer be used as informants, the  
    bill creates a group from which criminal organizations will  
    draft their criminal employees.

       "One of the main concerns of any organized criminal  
       enterprise is lack of trust in their own people.  This  
       legislation would identify for these criminal  
       organizations a specific group of people who, by statute,  
       will never be allowed to turn on them.  Minors will be  
       sought out and recruited for participation in dangerous  
       drug dealing by criminals, because those same criminals  
       know that law enforcement cannot use minors as informants.

       "We believe that minors who provide information to law  
       enforcement deserve protection.  But AB 2816 will not  
       ensure that minors are no longer in danger; in fact, the  
       bill, if it becomes law, would unintentionally expose  
       minors to great danger.  For that reason, we must oppose  
       this legislation."  

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    California State Sheriffs' Association, "Law enforcement  
    agencies and officers presently use minors as informants in  
    many instances to get evidence.  They are used to identify  
    drug pushers at a higher level than the person who sells on  
    the street; in domestic violence and elder abuse cases;  
    identifying illegal liquor and cigarette sales, etc.

       "As drafted, your bill would totally eliminate the use of  
       this valuable resource to get information on many crimes.   
       It is possible this legislation would also eliminate the  
       use of minors as witnesses in proceedings where the minor  
       was the informant."  

  REGISTERED SUPPORT/OPPOSITION  :

  Support  

None on file

  Opposition  

California State Sheriffs' Association
San Diego County District Attorney's Office


 Analysis prepared by  :  David Hendren / apubs / (916) 319-3744