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          Date of Hearing:   June 28, 2016


                        ASSEMBLY COMMITTEE ON HUMAN SERVICES


                                Susan Bonilla, Chair


          SB  
          947 (Pan) - As Amended May 31, 2016


          SENATE VOTE:  29-9


          SUBJECT:  Public assistance:  personal interviews


          SUMMARY:  Establishes the County Option of Efficient  
          Interviewing of CalWORKs Applicants Act of 2016, authorizing a  
          county to conduct the interview of an applicant for CalWORKs and  
          other specified social services via telephone or other  
          electronic means in lieu of an in-person interview, unless  
          otherwise requested by the applicant.


          EXISTING LAW:   


          1)Establishes in federal law the Temporary Assistance for Needy  
            Families (TANF) program, which provides block grants to states  
            to develop and implement their own state welfare-to-work  
            programs designed to provide cash assistance and other  
            supports and services to low-income families.  (42 USC § 601  
            et seq.)


          2)Establishes the state's TANF program, the California Work  








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            Opportunity and Responsibility to Kids (CalWORKs) program.   
            CalWORKs provides cash assistance and other supports and  
            services to low-income families and is administered by the  
            counties.  (WIC 11200 et seq.)


          3)Sets forth policies and procedures regarding certain social  
            service programs receiving specified federal funds, including  
            child welfare services, adult protective services, refugee  
            services, and in-home supportive services (IHSS).  (WIC 13000)


          4)Prohibits applicants for CalWORKs and certain other social  
            service programs from being granted public assistance prior to  
            being personally interviewed by the county department or state  
            staff for patients in state hospitals, as specified.  (WIC  
            11052.5)


          5)Establishes in federal law the Supplemental Nutrition  
            Assistance Program (SNAP), formerly known as the Food Stamp  
            Program, to permit low-income households to obtain a more  
            nutritious diet by increasing food purchasing power for all  
            eligible households.  (7 USC § 2011 et seq.)


          6)Establishes, in state law, the CalFresh program to administer  
            the provision of federal SNAP benefits to low-income families  
            and individuals meeting specified criteria.  (WIC 18900 et  
            seq.)

          7)Requires each county welfare department to, if appropriate and  
            to the extent permissible by federal law, exempt a household  
            from complying with face-to-face interview requirements in  
            order to initially apply or seek recertification for CalFresh  
            benefits, if certain conditions are met, as specified.  (WIC  
            18901.1)










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          FISCAL EFFECT:  Unknown.


          COMMENTS:  


          CalWORKs:  The CalWORKs program provides monthly income  
          assistance and employment-related services aimed at moving  
          children out of poverty and helping families meet basic needs.   
          Federal funding for CalWORKs comes from the TANF block grant.   
          The average 2016-17 monthly cash grant for a family of three on  
          CalWORKs (one parent and two children) is $497.35, and the  
          maximum monthly grant amount for a family of three, if the  
          family has no other income and lives in a high-cost county, is  
          $704.  According to recent data from the California Department  
          of Social Services (DSS), around 497,000 families rely on  
          CalWORKs, including over one million children.  Nearly 60% of  
          cases include children under 6 years old.

          Maximum grant amounts in high-cost counties of $704 per month  
          for a family of three, with no other income, means $23.46 per  
          day, per family, or $7.82 per family member, per day to meet  
          basic needs, including rent, clothing, utility bills, food, and  
          anything else a family needs to ensure children can be cared for  
          at home and safely remain with their families.  This grant  
          amount puts the annual household income at $8,448 per year, or  
          42% of poverty.  Federal Poverty Guidelines for 2016 show that  
          100% of poverty for a family of three is $20,160 per year.  

          CalFresh:  CalFresh benefits are funded entirely by the federal  
          government through the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program  
          (SNAP), and the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA)  
          sets specific eligibility requirements for SNAP programs across  








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          the United States, including a gross and net income test, work  
          requirements, and other documentation requirements.  The maximum  
          allowable gross income is typically 200% of the Federal Poverty  
          Level (FPL).  Households with elderly or disabled members are  
          not subject to gross income criteria but must have a net monthly  
          income at or below 100% of the FPL.  Other households must meet  
          both gross and net monthly income tests.  CalFresh is  
          administered locally by county human services agencies, and the  
          federal, state, and county governments share in the cost of  
          administration of the program.


          Benefits are made available on a monthly basis for food purchase  
          through an ATM-like electronic benefits transfer (EBT) card.   
          However, unlike other types of benefits that may be accessed  
          through an EBT card, CalFresh benefits cannot be withdrawn in  
          cash at point-of-sale terminals or at ATM machines.  CalFresh  
          benefits can only be used to purchase food items to be prepared  
          and consumed at home, as well as seeds and plants that can be  
          grown at home and produce food.  The average monthly benefit for  
          a CalFresh recipient is $144.35 per month, or $4.81 per person  
          per day. 


          CalFresh interviews:  States have been required, in certain  
          instances, to waive the face-to-face interview for food stamp  
          eligibility determination and redetermination for some time;  
          federal Food Stamp Program (now "SNAP" as of 2008) regulations  
          (7 CFR 273.14(e)(2)) state that: 


            "The State agency must notify the applicant that it will waive  
            the face-to-face interview? in favor of a telephone interview  
            on a case-by-case basis because of household hardship  
            situations as determined by the State agency.  These hardship  
            conditions include, but are not limited to:  illness,  
            transportation difficulties, care of a household member,  
            hardships due to residency in a rural area, prolonged severe  
            weather, or work or training hours which prevent the household  








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            from participating in an in-office interview.  The State  
            agency must document the case file to show when a waiver was  
            granted because of a hardship.  The State agency may opt to  
            waive the face-to-face interview in favor of a telephone  
            interview for all households which have no earned income and  
            all members of the household are elderly or disabled.   
            Regardless of any approved waivers, the State agency must  
            grant a face-to-face interview to any household which requests  
            one." 


          AB 231 (Steinberg), Chapter 743, Statutes of 2003, required  
          counties to screen applicants for food stamps for the need to  
          have a face-to-face application or recertification interview and  
          to grant an exemption from face-to-face interviews when  
          appropriate.  State regulations at the time required the  
          face-to-face interview to be waived, and a telephone interview  
          conducted in its place, for initial application and  
          recertification for any household in which all members were 60  
          years old or older or had disabilities.  State regulations also  
          permitted counties to waive face-to-face interviews, and instead  
          conduct telephone interviews, in instances where no household  
          member was able to come to the interview due to transportation  
          difficulties or other hardships determined by the county to  
          warrant waiving the face-to-face interview.


          In 2009, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) approved a  
          waiver request from California, giving counties the option to  
          waive the face-to-face interview requirement, and to instead  
          conduct telephone interviews, for all food stamp households  
          without the need to show hardship.   DSS All-County Letter  
          Number 09-62 stated that: 

            "Implementing this waiver will reduce the application process  
            burden for the household, increase timeliness, increase  
            program access, decrease the volume of activity in the local  
            offices, and remove barriers that prevent households from  
            completing an interview.  The waiver will allow the household  








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            to complete the eligibility process without being required to  
            arrange for transportation and child care, possibly numerous  
            times."

          In 2012, DSS required (versus permitted) counties to offer  
          telephone interviews in lieu of face-to-face interviews.  DSS  
          All-County Letter Number 12-26 stated that: 

            "According to the United States Department of Agriculture Food  
            and Nutrition Services, waiving the requirement for a  
            face-to-face interview has not negatively affected payment  
            error rates, is beneficial for CalFresh applicants and  
            recipients, and provides administrative relief for county  
            staff.  The majority of counties are utilizing this waiver at  
            both intake and recertification.  As an element of program  
            simplification and as part of California Department of Social  
            Services commitment to improving access, offering the option  
            of a telephone interview in lieu of a face-to-face interview  
            will now be required at intake and recertification.  Counties  
            not currently taking full advantage of the waiver are  
            encouraged to do so beginning as soon as possible, but no  
            later than July 1, 2012.  However, current county practices  
            (including conducting a face-to-face interview on the first  
            day if the applicant is in the office) may be maintained at  
            the option of the applicant if such practice expedites the  
            determination of eligibility and issuance of benefits."

          In 2013, the USDA granted California an extension of its waiver  
          of the face-to-face interview requirement through May 31, 2017.




          Need for this bill:  According to the author: 


            "Currently, CalWORKs requires a face-to-face interview even  
            though today 21st century tools make it possible to do  
            interviews telephonically, video or electronically that is  








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            more efficient.


            For the past 5 years California has been conducting telephone  
            interviews for the CalFresh program.  This effort started when  
            California was in deep recession and the CalFresh caseload  
            ballooned without the administrative resources to process the  
            applications the old fashion way - face-to-face interviews.   
            Today all counties offer the applicant the choice of in-person  
            face-to-face interview or a telephone interview.  Some  
            counties have even adopted telephonic signature to make the  
            process more efficient.


            California CalFresh error rate did not go up, in fact it went  
            down, when CalFresh face-to-face interviews were mostly  
            eliminated statewide five years ago.


            This bill would give the county the option to do telephone  
            interviews just like they do for CalFresh."


          According to the Western Center on Law and Poverty, one of the  
          sponsors of this bill:


            "The CalWORKs program serves approximately 560,000 poor  
            families and assists approximately 30,000 - 40,000  
            applications monthly.  Current law requires the personal  
            interview of a CalWORKs application to be conducted  
            face-to-face, which not only disadvantages families who reside  
            in rural areas and program administrators serving them.  
            This rule also makes it more difficult for working families to  
          comply with this requirement.

            This law was enacted before the advent of modern tools that  
            allow for interviews to be completed, recorded and stored  
            electronically in the case file.  Today, these interviews can  








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            be completed telephonically, by video or electronically in  
            ways that are more efficient without compromising the  
            integrity of the program.  In fact, CalFresh and Medi-Cal  
            programs are required to provide interviews to be conducted  
            telephonically unless otherwise requested by the applicant or  
            the county determines that a face-to-face is necessary.  [This  
            bill] would give counties the option to improve alignment and  
            streamlining of these programs for families applying for  
            CalWORKs.  In doing so, county programs become more efficient  
            and children and their families are better served."

          Recommended amendments:  In order to make clear that the changes  
          proposed by this bill apply specifically to CalWORKs, committee  
          staff recommends the following amendments beginning on line 11  
          of page 2 of the bill:


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            (b)In  determining eligibility for public assistance under  
          Chapter 2 (commencing with Section 11200), in  lieu of an  
          in-person personal interview as required under 


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          subdivision (a), the county may elect to conduct the interview 
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          required by this section telephonically or through other  
          electronic 
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          means. 
           (c)  If an applicant is incapable of acting in his or her own 








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          behalf, the county department shall verify this fact by personal  

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          contact with the applicant before aid is authorized. As used in  
          this 
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          section, the term public assistance does not include health care  
          as 
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          provided by Chapter 7 (commencing with Section 14000).
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             (c)  (d)  The interview conducted pursuant to this section shall  
          occur 
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          within seven days after the time of application unless there are  

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          extenuating circumstances that justify further delay.
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             (d)An in-person personal interview shall be conducted if 
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             requested by an applicant. 
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             (d)   (e)  If a county elects to conduct the personal interview  to  
          determine eligibility for public assistance under Chapter 2  
          (commencing with Section 11200)  required 
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          under subdivision (a) telephonically or through other electronic  

          P3     
               1


          means,  pursuant to subdivision (b),  the county shall conduct an  
          in-person personal interview 
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          in lieu of an interview through telephonic or other electronic  
          means 
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            if requested by an applicant.
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             SEC. 3.   If the Commission on State Mandates determines that 
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           this act contains costs mandated by the state, reimbursement to 
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           local agencies and school districts for those costs shall be  
          made 
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           pursuant to Part 7 (commencing with Section 17500) of Division 
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           4 of Title 2 of the Government Code.
           


          PRIOR LEGISLATION:


          SB 312 (Pan), 2015, was substantially similar to this bill.  It  
          died in the Senate Appropriations Committee.


          AB 1970 (Skinner), 2012, would have established the Social  
          Services Modernization and Efficiency Act of 2012 to, among  
          other things, require all application and recertification  
          interviews for specified public social service programs to be  
          conducted in person, by telephone, or through other electronic  
          means.  It died in the Senate Appropriations Committee.


          AB 231 (Steinberg), Chapter 743, Statutes of 2003, among other  
          things, required each county welfare department to, if  
          appropriate and to the extent permissible by federal law, exempt  
          a household from complying with face-to-face interview  
          requirements in order to initially apply or seek recertification  
          for CalFresh benefits, if certain conditions are met. 


          REGISTERED SUPPORT / OPPOSITION:










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          Support


          California Food Policy Advocates 
          California State Association of Counties 
          Children's Defense Fund
          Community Action Partnership of Orange County
          County Welfare Directors Association of CA co-sponsor
          National Association of Social Workers
          Santa Clara County Board of Supervisors 
          Solano County Board of Supervisors 
          St. Anthony's Foundation 
          United Way of California 
          Western Center on Law and Poverty - sponsor 
           






























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          Opposition


          None on file.




          Analysis Prepared by:Daphne Hunt / HUM. S. / (916)  
          319-2089